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andreizilla · 2006-02-05 09:10:12

I tested on my own blog. It's a WP 2.0 install... http://www.cocomment.com/comments/andreizilla

Merlin · 2006-02-05 16:07:03

If this happens, it means that we are able to extract the url of post and blog, but not the title. Unfortunately we were (not yet) able to support all templates of WordPress.

For WordPress we use the document title to get this information. We use the » as a separator. After checking your blog, I've seen that you use a different syntax for the title. That's why this information is not extracted.

We are currently looking for better ways to support some blogs, especially blogs that allow a lot of customization (like WordPress).
If you want your blog to be supported, the easiest solution would be to use another template or change your title to use the » as the delimiter, at least until we find a better solution.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

andreizilla · 2006-02-05 17:01:25

I changed the blog to use that symbol, and CC still doesn't recognize it.

http://andreib.com/blog/2006/02/cocomment

Geek from the street » Blog Archive » coComment

What is going wrong?

By the way, more and more blogs are getting this error... I hope it's not a one-time-forever thing (for example, the first time you see my blog, you register that (untitled) as the name, and keep it that way forever) ... more and more blogs Good luck with this one.

Maybe you should use the <title>in the feed and the <item><title> of the item that has the same <link> as the one you're processing.

Last edited by andreizilla (2006-02-05 17:15:10)

andreizilla · 2006-02-05 17:27:12

I got this far: http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … ent0pn.jpg

Apperently, CC now recognizes the Blog and post title... but I think somthing wrong is happening on your end.

Maybe I need to start with a fresh blog... if you could, please delete this blog from your database: http://www.cocomment.com/blog/287

I don't know how hard, if at all possible that would be, but it might solve the problem.

What I did:

edit /usr/local/www/data/wordpress/wp-content/themes/k2/header.php and delete or uncommend the current <title> line stick this one in there:

<title><?php bloginfo('name'); ?><?php wp_title(); ?></title>

andreizilla · 2006-02-05 21:14:05

Is anybody paying attention? Please wipe out that blog from your database, so I can start over with the _correct_ <title> format. If not, tell me what's wrong. Why is my blog still being called (untitled) ?

Thanks!

rbenson · 2006-02-05 22:07:40

Andrei calm down. This is spreading like fire, I bet the have a number of issues they are dealing with. Just wait

Merlin · 2006-02-05 22:12:18

Hi adreizilla,
unfortunately from where I am I can't access the database directly and we are not yet finished with a 'easier' way of doing the thing you want.

About your observation. You are right, once the first comment is done, the blog title is actually fixed. I can change you blog title tomorrow, though, just give me some time.

We are thinking of giving users a chance to change the title of the blog (or post) once it has been created. But the problem there is that we don't want anybody to be able to just change everything. Thus, we need a way to identify that a user is really the owner of a blog, but all these solutions are not very simple and user friend (e.g. what Technorati does). So far we did not (yet) find a good solution, thus we are stuck with the current problems.

I'm sorry that this is giving you problem and I hope that you can wait till tomorrow till the problem is fixed.

andreizilla · 2006-02-05 22:20:12

I didn't mean to sound so edgy... I have all the time in the world

steph · 2006-02-05 23:50:35

Maybe the blog title should be taken out of the DC metadata instead of the HTML title tag?

Merlin · 2006-02-06 09:54:31

The DC might be better. Is this available in all WordPress blogs? We'd use the dc:identifier for the URL of the post and the dc:title for the post title, right?

The URL of the blog and the name of the blog are not there, right?

Merlin · 2006-02-06 09:55:08

Btw., andreizilla, I just tested your blog and it seems to work without problems now. I'll have a look at the DB entries...

Merlin · 2006-02-06 10:00:49

I corrected the untitled things now.

andreizilla · 2006-02-06 20:42:08

Yes, thanks for fixing that.

By the way, I'm typing this into an areatext box that's 3 times wider then it's supposed to be

Can't you just use RCP calls to the WordPress/blog rcpxml endpoint? I'm not an expert with this... but (passing css border of comment form) that sounds like a good idea

infomancy · 2006-02-06 23:53:39

I got this error today as well. /blog/808 is showing untitled:untitled. I know the blog, http://pedersondesigns.com is using WP2.0 with K2 theme and rather a lot of customizations.

ChronoCracker · 2006-02-07 05:47:19

Another popular blog which seems to be having problems is Problogger. Most of the posts show up as untitled to me. But keep up the fast work that you people are doing.

dnorman · 2006-02-07 16:33:19

Just got this error on 2 WordPress blogs using the K2 theme.
http://www.darcynorman.net
http://stigmergicweb.org

Hibern8 · 2006-02-07 16:44:30

IMHO, it appears to be an issue with AJAX comments ...

dnorman · 2006-02-07 18:50:04

Hiber8: I have ajax comments disabled on my blog (darcynorman.net) and it is displayed as "Untitled"

Kurai · 2006-02-07 22:34:04

Same problem here: http://kurai.blogsome.com

tinyau · 2006-02-08 03:37:32

dnorman, it's a smiliar problem as mine. coComment expect '»' symbol in title to delimit blog name and post title. Since K2 is not adopt this approach, so the problem occur.

I hope coComment can think of some ways to cather different themes of blog.

kristin · 2006-02-08 16:24:13

I'm having this issue with my blog also. is the raquo still the delimiter? Can anyone confirm this so I can fix my template?

ceejayoz · 2006-02-08 17:25:11

I get this, also on K2, and I disabled AJAX commenting to attempt to fix it. No luck...

http://www.cocomment.com/blog/432

Merlin · 2006-02-08 20:17:42

I looked at the blogs in question.

ceejayoz, your blog does not work because coComment tries to extract the titles from the page title, separated », as it is (as far as I know) in the standard setting. Your blog uses a different separator, and we did not yet find a way to solve that.

The same thing is true for Kurai's blog. If you can adjust your template to use another this delimiter it should work.

Actually, I can quite easily also support another delimiter, but it should be nothing that is usually part of the title. E.g. the 'at' is not so practical. So if you are leaning to some other delimiter we should also support, let me know.

dnorman · 2006-02-08 20:27:49

What about using standard dublin core metadata if it's available? My blog has a full dc record at the bottom of every page...

I'd post a sample here, but don't think it would survive pasting. Check out the bottom of any page at http://www.darcynorman.net

I'm using an optional Creative Commons License plugin, which happens to generate this metadata. But, if it's available it should probably be used...

Merlin · 2006-02-08 20:48:41

Actually, that would be a great idea. I just don't know if we can get all the relevant data from there. For example I can't extract the blog url, article url and article title from your dc tags (or I just did not see it, which might also be possible, it's again quite late here... ;-) )

That's why we started with the javascript version, which was very easy for us to implement. If a lot of people are using dc on their blogs, that might also be an option. The problem there is just that we can easily support a blog system when just some of the blogs have these tags and the others don't. We'd have to look for some other way of extracting the data anyway... And I don't think we all want to wait till there really is a standard out there... might take years.

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