http://www.cocomment.com/comments/tangentrider Copyright 2007 coComment.com 2009-11-22T04:06:51.818+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/images/logo4rss.gif http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=1783720&comment_id=31270163 Laura Having just finished a 10x listen-thru of SofS (I'm listening thru the OT/NT), this made me laugh aloud, in my office, and will likely continue to do so. Excellent! 2008-09-19T20:23:30.462+02:00 2008-09-19T20:23:30.462+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=1168400&comment_id=25192200 Laura testing 2008-04-02T16:42:00.679+02:00 2008-04-02T16:42:00.679+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=1271518&comment_id=24534329 Laura I remember listening to my Larry Norman cassette tape in the RV at a church camp (circa 1978) and hearing the "older folks" call it "devil music." That was the moment I realized that church culture was changing and that I was on the side of change. Thank God for people like Larry Norman who translated God's truth into the language new generations could understand. 2008-02-26T18:20:24.308+01:00 2008-02-26T18:20:24.308+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=1168400&comment_id=23932502 Laura testing 2008-02-07T05:06:40.792+01:00 2008-02-07T05:06:40.792+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=1168400&comment_id=23913311 Laura testing the newbie 2008-02-06T20:00:03.510+01:00 2008-02-06T20:00:03.510+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=800796&comment_id=21898403 Laura It is available in US. I purchased it from amazon the first chance I got. I've "deep skimmed" it already and hope to read it after I've written the working draft of my thesis (which is taking up the majority of my waking hours and some of my sleeping ones). With Mark, I question the "charismatic" roots of the emerging church (though I speak as an American on the evangelical/emerging overlap...not UK and not officially emerging). Even so, the roots seem much more diverse. On the other hand, it may be that the questions raised by the charismatic movement led to the formation of EC...not sure. 2007-10-25T18:58:16.542+02:00 2007-10-25T18:58:16.542+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=944571&comment_id=18110253 Laura this is a test...this is only a test 2007-08-06T17:36:38.422+02:00 2007-08-06T17:36:38.422+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=779194&comment_id=15155218 Laura I just finished a semester studying the missionary ecclesiology of Newbigin--I also wish more folks would read him. I'll be reading these with great interest. Thanks for the links! 2007-06-06T23:09:08.651+02:00 2007-06-06T23:09:08.651+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=764474&comment_id=14865787 Laura Thanks. As to where I come from...that's rather funny: one of the places I come from is Talbot School of Theology at Biola University (a bastion of conservative evangelicalism, if there ever was one). This summer, I'm starting research for a ThM thesis on emerging church ecclesiology, which has raised interest--and a few eyebrows--here at Talbot. Given the summer I've laid out for myself, I may pop by and preach periodically ;-) ...the topic twill be on my mind. 2007-06-01T20:14:53.016+02:00 2007-06-01T20:14:53.016+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=764474&comment_id=14863169 Laura Oh my...I've been shaking my head an awful lot this week. I've just finished reading The Study of Theology by Richard A. Muller. He makes a strong case for the historical and continuing practice of theological contextualization. Making the gospel clear to our culture is not watering it down. Rather, contextualization ought to make the gospel as offensive to today's hearers as it was to the original hearers. This almost always means restating our propositions and reforming our practices. When we miss the mark of clarity, we're off base. There is a lesson here for all sides of this discussion. Those who stand firm on historical formulations need to rethink and rework those formulations so the truth of the gospel is clear to this generation. Those who are experts in contextualization need to be sure they are contextualizing the actual gospel (which will be offensive). There is responsibility on both sides to listen to and question one another in order that the message of Christ might be clear. Enough preaching... TSK, Thank you for your voice. 2007-06-01T19:19:23.943+02:00 2007-06-01T19:19:23.943+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=613823&comment_id=12260013 Laura Brad, I know what you mean. But there is a sticking point: how does one translate 3-D theology into words? I've not a clue, but I wish I did. I almost see it in my head, but when I try to write it down or explain it, everything gets catywompus. Maybe we need sculptor-theologians... 2007-04-17T02:23:14.840+02:00 2007-04-17T02:23:14.840+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=613823&comment_id=11860526 Laura ...as a bit of clarification: in my head, "the mission of God" is holistic, covering his rule of material and immaterial creation. So the "the" covers the gamut. 2007-04-10T19:15:23.079+02:00 2007-04-10T19:15:23.079+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=613823&comment_id=11852375 Laura Brad, allow a summary--please correct as needed. The web consists of (or is clustered around) who God is and what he is up to with whom. All other "components" are part of the web around these two primary clusters. 2007-04-10T17:29:13.288+02:00 2007-04-10T17:29:13.288+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=613823&comment_id=11850433 Laura I'll chime in on non-linear thinking, for this is, of course, much more complex than a simple numbered list can convey. Indeed, I think a web is probably more accurate than a circle, for each "component" touches and affects the others. Still, I do believe there is a logical priority of the intentions of God as seen in missio Dei. (Not a temporal sequence, mind you.) 2007-04-10T16:55:42.090+02:00 2007-04-10T16:55:42.090+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=613823&comment_id=11812102 Laura I would chime in with Chad but with a clarification: 1. Trinitarian Missiology (with Christology being a part of this) 2. Ecclesiology (that being ecclesiology seen eschatologically and referring to the gathering of the people of God--currently existing in the local-universal church that is the body of Christ) 3. Theology (the linguistic expression of our understandings of God and God's work) Sequence is a toughy here, but it seems to me that if missiology is seen as God's eternal intention and ecclesiology is seen as part of his eternal goal, then theology follows because it is the expression of these things in language. I also have a concern that missiology is too often relegated to the contextual transmission of the gospel rather than as the salvific work of God in which we are privileged to participate. If one is speaking of missiology from an earthly perspective, then I think it is last, for it is difficult contextualize what you have not expressed in language. The church is then the foretaste of the kingdom, proclaiming to the world the intention of God. Great question! 2007-04-09T22:49:38.025+02:00 2007-04-09T22:49:38.025+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=tangentrider&conv=555657&comment_id=10533959 Laura Thanks for the reminder...it's needed just now. 2007-03-16T21:46:40.804+01:00 2007-03-16T21:46:40.804+01:00