http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Telecart Copyright 2007 coComment.com 2009-11-22T02:50:53.926+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/images/logo4rss.gif http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362770 May 1 2006 at 4:31 <a href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="></a>05/01/2006Total Eclipse » The future isn’t what it used to be on “Full text of the Grim Meathook Future thing” 2007-12-20T12:17:40.556+01:00 2007-12-20T12:17:40.556+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=60212 Shay I'm referring to the Marshal Plan Clinton promised the region. 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362768 May 6th 2006 at 1:20 we never almost had the ‘new middle east’ because israel is by far the strongest economy in the region. 2006-05-03T00:47:37.885+02:00 2006-05-03T00:47:37.885+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=55798 Shay I agree that these encounters are practically meaningless. They don't happen on a large enough scale, and even if they did, you got to remember that these are people willing to meet. Unlike in some other cases, I'd argue that here that definately means something about the sample which is possibly quite different from the general population. I had an Arab in my class, who was friends with all the football hooligans. That never stopped them from hating Arabs, it's just that Mustafa was 'different'. And finally, I think stereotypes can't be changed at all, we can only work to try and make people ashamed to admit to themselves that they effect their judgment. I'm not really 100% sure what's the point of that (as sterotypes still effect judgment). Possibly try and educate to strengthen rationality as the best framework for decision-making, making people aware of the stereotypes, and aware that they should withhold judgment based solely upon sterotypes. Educating people to think critically should be the goal of every western nation. Schoolkids should learn logic from a young age, not just in preparation for their psychometric exam, when they're already too old to rid themselves of base bad thinking habbits. It's interesting what you say about the value a culture places on the future or past... If I had to choose, I'd say Israeli culture puts the most value on the present. I have to think about it a bit more though. The 'New Middle East' model is precisely our version of The Airstream Futuropolis, with flying cars and jetpacks and colonies on the moon. You know what the difference is..? We almost had it. 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=20988612 Catul Hmmm… it is funny… i was just saying that myself… no, but really, it is interesting how when you start thinking out sode of the box, things that seem initialy contrdictory start making sense together… 2006-04-30T15:59:47.378+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:47.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362761 Shay Thanks. Israel is the frontier between the gradual haute couture technological future and the unreal deathmatch grim meathook future. Living on the edge of chaos means living in the extreme spearhead of culture and creativity, but it also means you’re the first to tumble over, with no solid ground to support you. It is my prediction that these are going to be turbulant years. What I was hinting at is that homoestasis is unnatural. The only time a living organism is in a relatively peacful uneventful state is when it’s dead. And even then, that’s not complete stasis. This is a fact about dynamic systems which cannot be ignored, and has hard implications for society. So if lasting peace is death, where does that leave us..? On the edge. Hoping not to tumble over. 2006-04-30T15:59:34.044+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:34.044+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=20988610 Catul Aha!!! U Ucouldn’r agree more, expecially abotu the whole Wwe label people and then kill fo rthat shit… it is so so true… you are very smart, you should go to finishing school. 2006-04-30T15:59:27.378+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:27.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362770 May 1 2006 at 4:31 <a href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="></a>05/01/2006Total Eclipse » The future isn’t what it used to be on “Full text of the Grim Meathook Future thing” 2007-12-20T12:17:40.556+01:00 2007-12-20T12:17:40.556+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=60212 Shay I'm referring to the Marshal Plan Clinton promised the region. 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362768 May 6th 2006 at 1:20 we never almost had the ‘new middle east’ because israel is by far the strongest economy in the region. 2006-05-03T00:47:37.885+02:00 2006-05-03T00:47:37.885+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=55798 Shay I agree that these encounters are practically meaningless. They don't happen on a large enough scale, and even if they did, you got to remember that these are people willing to meet. Unlike in some other cases, I'd argue that here that definately means something about the sample which is possibly quite different from the general population. I had an Arab in my class, who was friends with all the football hooligans. That never stopped them from hating Arabs, it's just that Mustafa was 'different'. And finally, I think stereotypes can't be changed at all, we can only work to try and make people ashamed to admit to themselves that they effect their judgment. I'm not really 100% sure what's the point of that (as sterotypes still effect judgment). Possibly try and educate to strengthen rationality as the best framework for decision-making, making people aware of the stereotypes, and aware that they should withhold judgment based solely upon sterotypes. Educating people to think critically should be the goal of every western nation. Schoolkids should learn logic from a young age, not just in preparation for their psychometric exam, when they're already too old to rid themselves of base bad thinking habbits. It's interesting what you say about the value a culture places on the future or past... If I had to choose, I'd say Israeli culture puts the most value on the present. I have to think about it a bit more though. The 'New Middle East' model is precisely our version of The Airstream Futuropolis, with flying cars and jetpacks and colonies on the moon. You know what the difference is..? We almost had it. 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=20988612 Catul Hmmm… it is funny… i was just saying that myself… no, but really, it is interesting how when you start thinking out sode of the box, things that seem initialy contrdictory start making sense together… 2006-04-30T15:59:47.378+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:47.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=120362761 Shay Thanks. Israel is the frontier between the gradual haute couture technological future and the unreal deathmatch grim meathook future. Living on the edge of chaos means living in the extreme spearhead of culture and creativity, but it also means you’re the first to tumble over, with no solid ground to support you. It is my prediction that these are going to be turbulant years. What I was hinting at is that homoestasis is unnatural. The only time a living organism is in a relatively peacful uneventful state is when it’s dead. And even then, that’s not complete stasis. This is a fact about dynamic systems which cannot be ignored, and has hard implications for society. So if lasting peace is death, where does that leave us..? On the edge. Hoping not to tumble over. 2006-04-30T15:59:34.044+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:34.044+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=20988610 Catul Aha!!! U Ucouldn’r agree more, expecially abotu the whole Wwe label people and then kill fo rthat shit… it is so so true… you are very smart, you should go to finishing school. 2006-04-30T15:59:27.378+02:00 2006-04-30T15:59:27.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=1553107&comment_id=29955958 Anonymous Excellent 2008-08-03T22:16:13.289+02:00 2008-08-03T22:16:13.289+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=1515952&comment_id=28869326 Anonymous שוקווווווווו 2008-07-22T16:18:37.627+02:00 2008-07-22T16:18:37.627+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=1402482&comment_id=26780487 Shay Just talking about this with family this week. heard somebody describe it as such: "Affiliation in communities happens in three ways: Pools (loose association with each other, strong association to a shared goal, values or activity – political party, brand), Webs (strong connection to other community members – social networks) and Hubs (strong connections to central figure, loose association with each other – fan club)" I wonder how we can mix Yaniv's topographical model with this systems view... 2008-05-23T01:01:32.282+02:00 2008-05-23T01:01:32.282+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=758376&comment_id=14739265 שי יפה אמרת. על זה למעשה כתבתי לח"כ פינס כשהתפלצתי למשמע זה שהוא תמך בהצעה הטרומית, ואני מתפקד ותיק של מפלגת העבודה. לא לזה פיללתי. יש כאן מוסרנות פטרנליסטית שלא במקומה. המדינה היא לא ההורה של כל בית בישראל. להורים שמעוניינים בכך, יש מספיק אמצעי שליטה על מה הילד יצפה באינטרנט. בין היתר, לכבות את המחשב. יתר ההורים יכולים פשוט לעסוק בהורות, ולעזור לילד להבין לבד אילו תכנים מיועדים לו ואילו "למבוגרים". בל נשכח, הסטנדרטים החברתיים שמכתיבים לנו שלראות שד חשוף של אשה זה לא בסדר הם לא מן אללה. אלו אינם ערכים אבסולוטיים, וה"נזק"-כביכול שיכול להיגרם לילד בן 13 מלהחשף לאיברי הנקה שנחשף אליהם באופן יומיומי כשהיה בן פחות משנה היא לא רק לא-מוכחת, היא מעלה אצלי גיחוח. הערכים בהםמחזיק הש"סניק הם לא הערכים שלי ואין זה מקומה של המדינה לבצע שיפוט-ערכי ולקבוע דה פקטו שרק הערכים של הש"סניק ראויים. 2007-05-30T18:16:05.256+02:00 2007-05-30T18:16:05.256+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=60212 Shay I'm referring to the Marshal Plan Clinton promised the region. 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 2006-05-07T18:22:18.901+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=36062&comment_id=55798 Shay I agree that these encounters are practically meaningless. They don't happen on a large enough scale, and even if they did, you got to remember that these are people willing to meet. Unlike in some other cases, I'd argue that here that definately means something about the sample which is possibly quite different from the general population. I had an Arab in my class, who was friends with all the football hooligans. That never stopped them from hating Arabs, it's just that Mustafa was 'different'. And finally, I think stereotypes can't be changed at all, we can only work to try and make people ashamed to admit to themselves that they effect their judgment. I'm not really 100% sure what's the point of that (as sterotypes still effect judgment). Possibly try and educate to strengthen rationality as the best framework for decision-making, making people aware of the stereotypes, and aware that they should withhold judgment based solely upon sterotypes. Educating people to think critically should be the goal of every western nation. Schoolkids should learn logic from a young age, not just in preparation for their psychometric exam, when they're already too old to rid themselves of base bad thinking habbits. It's interesting what you say about the value a culture places on the future or past... If I had to choose, I'd say Israeli culture puts the most value on the present. I have to think about it a bit more though. The 'New Middle East' model is precisely our version of The Airstream Futuropolis, with flying cars and jetpacks and colonies on the moon. You know what the difference is..? We almost had it. 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 2006-04-30T16:00:17.378+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=Telecart&conv=34011&comment_id=53560 Shay w00t, pluggage. 2006-04-25T23:51:08.110+02:00 2006-04-25T23:51:08.110+02:00