http://www.cocomment.com/comments/justelise Copyright 2007 coComment.com 2009-11-24T12:49:41.374+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/images/logo4rss.gif http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=958119&comment_id=18267947 Elise I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for a second and I'm sure I'll get roasted for it, but if you have problems hearing in places that are very loud, perhaps this kind of party is simply not for you? What can you do to reduce the background noise at these events to make it easier for you to have conversations with the people that approach you? If you are hosting a party, it's your duty to work the crowd. If you cannot work a crowd that large due to the noise and the fact that it makes you tired, perhaps you should try having smaller parties? People shouldn't realistically all expect a handshake and 10 minutes of face time with you, but if the point of your party is to mingle and meet new people and some of them are coming away with a negative impression of you, change needs to be made. I know plenty of people in business who can work a crowd of 4-5 hundred people at a party without breaking a sweat, but it depends on the kind of party. If someone comes over to you and says something that you can't hear, you should try harder to hear what their saying even if it means stopping a conversation with the group you were talking to when the new person arrived. The people who you were talking with are more likely to be understanding of your need to talk to other people and will excuse you because you are the host. The person who you didn't hear will always come away with a negative impression of you if you don't try harder to understand what they're saying even if it means leaving a current conversation. 2007-08-16T15:02:53.521+02:00 2007-08-16T15:02:53.521+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=659699&comment_id=12902469 (anonymous) (undefined) 2007-04-27T12:37:07.242+02:00 2007-04-27T12:37:07.242+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=649641&comment_id=12671513 (anonymous) (undefined) 2007-04-23T21:13:01.080+02:00 2007-04-23T21:13:01.080+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=644969&comment_id=12630968 justelise @Recruiting Animal I don't know if you were referring to me when you use the name "Lisa" but I did not see any other comments left by anyone named Lisa in this thread. Working on the assumption that you were indeed referring to me, my name is Elise. You continue to use language like "made up" and "nonsense" to describe my real experience with recruiters. I have had recruiters tell me and friends of mine to take their blogs and personal web sites off of their resumes because they "wanted to have control of the image of me that was portrayed to the client." That's a quote from a recruiter! They fully admitted that they wanted to have full control of how I was portrayed to their client. Essentially they wanted the power to mold my image into anything the client wanted regardless of how I felt about it. There is nothing nonsensical or contrived about what I have said because I lived it. As I said the vast majority of recruiters I met are smarmy salespeople. Many of my friends have had similar experiences and some have excluded recruiters and job placement agencies from their job searches completely. I just want to remind you, however, that I did go out of my wayto point out that I have met some really good recruiters who I go to when I need placement or resume assistance. Just because you don't see things from my perspective (because you've probably spent very little time on the other side of the recruiting table), does not give you the right to discredit my experiences and opinions by trying to lead readers to believe that what I am saying is nonsense and made up. It's in poor taste and it makes you look like a spin doctor. You should agree to disagree before you attempt to discredit people with opposing viewpoints by claiming that their experiences are not real. 2007-04-23T01:57:26.211+02:00 2007-04-23T01:57:26.211+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=644969&comment_id=12578025 justelise @Adam Exactly! A recruiter is simply a sales person and they don't work for you the potential employee they work for the employers and for their commissions. Essentially 90% of the recruiters I have worked with have gone through great lengths to collect information about me but when it comes to finding about my personality and what I like or dislike in a position, no matter what I tell them they are simply trying to get a warm body into a position. They ultimately aren't worried about your job satisfaction. @Recruiting Animal You asked me about where I get my information and truth be told all of it is from my personal experience and that of close friends and relatives. We have, collectively, been pushed around and taken advantage of by the vast majority of recruiters. There are very few exceptions and in fact I can name five or ten recruiters who are excellent people who I go to again and again because they are honest and place people in jobs that they know they will have long-term happiness and success in. Most recruiters are worried about getting a body to fill a slot and getting paid for that especially when they work for commissions. Every recruiter is a sales person unlesstheir organization they work for is a non-profit (which I've yet to see exist). Just like the employer, the recruiter is most concerned with their bottom line. You cannot tell me I'm wrong because all I am doing is conveying my experiences. 2007-04-21T23:33:42.999+02:00 2007-04-21T23:33:42.999+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=644969&comment_id=12567250 justelise In my experience I have had more positive feedback about my blog in interviews and during the job seeking process (even if my freshest post was a few weeks old), than negative feedback. Even if you don't post more than a few times a month at the very least a blog is a way to demonstrate your communication skills and writing ability. Furthermore, it is a way for an employer to get a snapshot of your personality. A recruiter will discourage you from blogging because it chips away at their job function. They want to be the one to convey your skills and strengths to the employer. They want to be the ones to paint the entire picture of who a potential employee is to the employer no matter if it is completely wrong or not. Recruiters will tell you to do things that will put them in a place of power when it comes to your job placement. A combination of LinkedIn, a personal blog, and good networking skills may allow you to circumvent recruiters altogether in some situations. LinkedIn allows you to keep tabs on the people you have business and personal relationships with and leverage those connections to network and to seek jobs. Isn't that what a Recruiter does anyway? I knowthey do other things like negotiate benefits and salaries as well that are beneficial to all, but if you know your market value and you have a solid history of work experience, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out what kind of salary you should be able to request from future employers. If you're not going for a high end management position or an executive position, the value of a recruiter is dimished when you have tools like LinkedIn, blogs, and the ability to market yourself. 2007-04-21T19:48:40.901+02:00 2007-04-21T19:48:40.901+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=justelise&conv=618149&comment_id=12463517 justelise Test 2007-04-20T01:34:16.549+02:00 2007-04-20T01:34:16.549+02:00