http://www.cocomment.com/comments/elliehearts Copyright 2007 coComment.com 2009-11-23T04:45:21.224+01:00 http://www.cocomment.com/images/logo4rss.gif http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556578&comment_id=121327658 ellie FYI about the first 2 sites - they're affiliate linking sites. http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T19:01:11.391+02:00 2009-08-07T19:01:11.391+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556575&comment_id=121327332 ellie Don't fall for the bait! Why? http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:58:49.443+02:00 2009-08-07T18:58:49.443+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556573&comment_id=121326052 ellie You're the first blog I've seen that has looked at this critically. Thank you! For more - http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:55:41.091+02:00 2009-08-07T18:55:41.091+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556569&comment_id=121324341 ellie (http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com) Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:51:13.788+02:00 2009-08-07T18:51:13.788+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556569&comment_id=121324289 Select profile... Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:50:34.284+02:00 2009-08-07T18:50:34.284+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556568&comment_id=121324173 ellie Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:50:16.758+02:00 2009-08-07T18:50:16.758+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556567&comment_id=121323421 ellie Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list of top blogs for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:49:19.517+02:00 2009-08-07T18:49:19.517+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556565&comment_id=121322943 ellie Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list of top blogs for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. No actual educators were involved in selecting those top sites. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:47:17.204+02:00 2009-08-07T18:47:17.204+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556566&comment_id=121323107 ellie Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list of top blogs for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. No actual educators were involved in selecting those top sites. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:46:57.718+02:00 2009-08-07T18:46:57.718+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2556563&comment_id=121321999 ellie Hello, While I was researching a post on affiliate sites I saw that you posted that you were included in a list of top blogs for librarians. It's just linkbaiting for an affiliate linking site. No actual educators were involved in selecting those top sites. Sorry :( http://ellieheartslibraries.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/affiliate-sites/ 2009-08-07T18:45:31.504+02:00 2009-08-07T18:45:31.504+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2555082&comment_id=121151281 ellie You just ripped apart a blog post from an elearners.com affiliate (http://www.elearners.com/help/affiliates.asp) site that hasn't even bothered to take down it's "Hello World" post. This is some random person trying to make a quick buck, not a professional. Both this site (http://associatedegree.org) and Learn-gasm - who has the top 100 blogs post going around currently (www.bachelorsdegreeonline.com) are sites designed solely to earn revenue through click-throughs. When you use the drop downs to select types of degrees you are taken to elearners.com, which results in a "sale" for the directing site. All of the links to request more information on any of the schools on either of those sites are affiliate links e.g - https://search.collegedegrees.com/forms/university-of-phoenix/publisher/bachelorsdegreeonline The "bachelorsdegreeonline" at the end is a tracking mechanism to allow collegedegrees.com to reward sites that send them visitors. Just like libraries can send people to Amazon and get a kickback. The difference is libraries are trying be helpful - these sites are not. While all the schools linked to are legitimate schools, both are misleading sites since they only link to schools that offer an affiliate kickback. While the content of the top 100 and 25 predictions lists is completely non-objectionable, the fact that librarians are taking these sites seriously is. 2009-08-06T22:51:52.805+02:00 2009-08-06T22:51:52.805+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2555913&comment_id=121089640 ellie (ellieheartscrafts.wordpress.com) so pretty!!! 2009-08-06T15:15:17.976+02:00 2009-08-06T15:15:17.976+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2555560&comment_id=120973282 ellie Thanks for writing this up Heidi! 2009-08-05T23:21:37.012+02:00 2009-08-05T23:21:37.012+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2554658&comment_id=120873698 Ellie Different people have different advice. We've conveniently collected it all in one place for you :) Speaking for myself, I'm just passing on the rants I've heard from coworkers when they see people with MLSs applying for circulation positions. Of course there are people with MLSs in circulation positions, so not every place of employment has the same view. I would certainly suggest addressing your over-qualification in your cover letter, since the implicit message without any further information is likely to come across as, "I want a job, any job to get something on my resume and/or to be able to move to this city and as soon as something better comes along I'm gone," which is unlikely to add points in your favor. Joan offered the more standard advice - go ahead and apply for everything, you never know. Then Derik and I offered our responses - a little stretch may be fine, but let's not get carried away here... There's also a difference between the required and the preferred qualifications sections. Typically HR will not even pass on the resumes that do not meet the mandatory requirements (e.g. an MLS), and if they do leave the weeding of resumes to the library, they still won't let you hire someone who doesn't meet the stated minimum qualifications in the job description. Plus the library hiring committee will sit there sifting through the resumes growing more frustrated with each one that doesn't meet the requirements, wondering why these people applied for something that clearly stated it required 5 years of supervisory experience when they have 0. Now, on the other hand, if the job description states 2 years experience in the preferred qualification category but none in the required, then by all means, go for it. That is probably a library like Joan's that is looking to hire new graduates. Don't worry if you don't have all the preferred qualifications. And an additional caveat - everything I just said is coming purely from an academic library perspective. 2009-08-04T21:27:39.756+02:00 2009-08-04T21:27:39.756+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2554658&comment_id=120827313 Ellie Different people have different advice. We've conveniently collected it all in one place for you :) Speaking for myself, I'm just passing on the rants I've heard from coworkers when they see people with MLSs applying for circulation positions. Of course there are people with MLSs in circulation positions, so not every place of employment has the same view. I would certainly suggest addressing your over-qualification in your cover letter, since the implicit message without any further information is likely to come across as, "I want a job, any job to get something on my resume and/or to be able to move to this city and as soon as something better comes along I'm gone," which is unlikely to add points in your favor. Joan offered the more standard advice - go ahead and apply for everything, you never know. Then Derik and I offered our responses - a little stretch may be fine, but let's not get carried away here... There's also a difference between the required and the preferred qualifications sections. Typically HR will not even pass on the resumes that do not meet the mandatory requirements (e.g. an MLS), and if they do leave the weeding of resumes to the library, they still won't let you hire someone who doesn't meet the stated minimum qualifications in the job description. Plus the library hiring committee will sit there sifting through the resumes growing more frustrated with each one that doesn't meet the requirements, wondering why these people applied for something that clearly stated it required 5 years of supervisory experience when they have 0. Now, on the other hand, if the job description states 2 years experience in the preferred qualification category but none in the required, then by all means, go for it. That is probably a library like Joan's that is looking to hire new graduates. Don't worry if you don't have all the preferred qualifications. And an additional caveat - everything I just said is coming purely from an academic library perspective. 2009-08-04T21:26:27.526+02:00 2009-08-04T21:26:27.526+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=2555082&comment_id=120877026 ellie You just ripped apart a blog post from an elearners.com affiliate (http://www.elearners.com/help/affiliates.asp) site that hasn't even bothered to take down it's "Hello World" post. This is some random person trying to make a quick buck, not a professional. 2009-08-04T17:45:58.118+02:00 2009-08-04T17:45:58.118+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=1412301&comment_id=26933115 ellie Coming from film and television, my biggest adjustment was to the glacial speed of libraries and setting more realistic expectations on time frames for projects and responses to emails. 2008-05-30T15:55:17.889+02:00 2008-05-30T15:55:17.889+02:00 http://www.cocomment.com/sidebar?object=people&context=explore&mode=detail&id=elliehearts&conv=1361080&comment_id=26446740 ellie testing as well 2008-05-08T17:04:50.234+02:00 2008-05-08T17:04:50.234+02:00