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Quote:Originally Posted by Mas

2009-10-11T05:07:53.705+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by MasamuneX7Jiraiya trained: 1. Nagato 2. Yahiko (who later became part of Pein) 3. Konan 4. Minato 5. Naruto His students alone could beat Orochimaru, Tsunade, and all of THEIR students combined.couldnt agree more

Orochimaru is the stongest San

2009-08-31T12:46:11.802+02:00

Orochimaru is the stongest Sannin. Fuck Jiraiya

Jiraiya trained: 1. Nagato 2.

2009-07-21T20:24:29.899+02:00

Jiraiya trained: 1. Nagato 2. Yahiko (who later became part of Pein) 3. Konan 4. Minato 5. Naruto His students alone could beat Orochimaru, Tsunade, and all of THEIR students combined.

Laugh My Fucking Ass Off. Pe

2009-06-11T04:02:25.775+02:00

Laugh My Fucking Ass Off. People were scared SHITLESS of Orochimaru. A Genius Seen every 3 Decades. The only reason anybody even knows anything about the Sannin Three, is because of the power and strength Orochimaru posessed. He was going to be Hokage. He was known. Jiraiya got famous being on his team. The only thing you should remember Jiraiya for, is his Failures. He is a Self Proclaimed Failure, yet you think he's the greatest of the Sannin. He had no goals, and no ambitions. He doesn't rely on his own strength, he relies on the strength of his students. He's pathetic.

Quote:Originally Posted by Uch

2009-06-11T04:01:36.573+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Uchiha AoshiSarutobi acknowledged Orochimaru's tremendous talent and put him above Jiraiya and Tsunade. However I think Jiraiya could beat Orochimaru. Orochimaru had more potential though.It's like the Sasuke and Naruto comparison. Sasuke is the natural genius, but in the end Naruto will surpass him. Quote:Originally Posted by Saf... Edo Tensei. Kusanagi. White Snake and its attendant effects. Body snatching. Immortality. I'm sorry, anyone seriously saying Orochimaru didn't have anything impressive is, flat out, RETARDED. Sennin mode gets serious overhype. It was cool, but somehow people use it to put Jiraiya waaay over Oro. Sorry, no. It wasn't that godly.Whether or not we find someones techniques impressive is really a matter of opinion. For me his Body Snatching makes him weaker in my eyes. He depended on getting new bodies because he's spent so much time ruining his old ones with experiments. His immortality is something that Madara and Kakuzu seem to have mastered as well, so it's not something that I find that impressive anymore. All in all, I just find Jiraiya's hermit mode and it's abilities more impressive than what Oro has shown.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2009-06-11T04:01:29.431+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianFrom what we've seen from them all Jiraiya is the strongest.We have never seen Tsunade or Oro going all out. Even against Sarutobi the Sannin was just playing around to make his sensei suffer and that almost costed his life. I would like to see how Hermit Mode could deal with Edo Tensei because believe it or not he showed none jutsu that could defeat the summons. I believe in Kishi anyway

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2009-06-11T04:01:02.289+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianFrom what we've seen from them all Jiraiya is the strongest. Just as plannedOrochimaru RAPED Sarutobi: forget anime filler, that fight was OVER once Edo Tensei came out. Reread the manga. He had severely outclassed Saru. And Jiraiya's the only Sannin we've seen take on an opponent as strong as he was seriously and non-gimped. Of course we saw more from him.

Quote:Originally Posted by Aos

2009-06-11T04:00:52.289+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by AoshiKunStop being biased guys, it was stated by Kishi the Sannins are equal and follow the Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Tsunade > Orochimaru logic.From what we've seen from them all Jiraiya is the strongest. Quote:First Minato, now Jiraiya and soon Naruto. Just as planned

Stop being biased guys, it was

2009-06-11T04:00:42.289+02:00

Stop being biased guys, it was stated by Kishi the Sannins are equal and follow the Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Tsunade > Orochimaru logic. Quote:Originally Posted by OdlamThis is a Jiraiya tard thread. Not a Jiraiya fan thread, but a Jiraiya tard thread. It's getting to be an epidemic around here. That's harsh but it's getting out of hand.First Minato, now Jiraiya and soon Naruto.

"Sannin" means "3 people." Ev

2009-06-11T04:00:32.289+02:00

"Sannin" means "3 people." Every time Jiraiya is referred to as a Sannin, it is confirming the fact that each of the sannin have equal reputation. Really, keep this shit to a minimum.

Quote:Originally Posted by Odl

2009-06-11T04:00:22.289+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by OdlamThis is a Jiraiya tard thread. Not a Jiraiya fan thread, but a Jiraiya tard thread. It's getting to be an epidemic around here. That's harsh but it's getting out of hand.That's a whole lotta bull-frog . Jiraiyaaaa

... Edo Tensei. Kusanagi. Whi

2009-06-11T04:00:12.289+02:00

... Edo Tensei. Kusanagi. White Snake and its attendant effects. Body snatching. Immortality. I'm sorry, anyone seriously saying Orochimaru didn't have anything impressive is, flat out, RETARDED. Sennin mode gets serious overhype. It was cool, but somehow people use it to put Jiraiya waaay over Oro. Sorry, no. It wasn't that godly.

This is a Jiraiya tard thread.

2009-06-11T04:00:02.289+02:00

This is a Jiraiya tard thread. Not a Jiraiya fan thread, but a Jiraiya tard thread. It's getting to be an epidemic around here. That's harsh but it's getting out of hand.

Quote:Originally Posted by Hum

2009-03-05T08:15:00.747+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by HumanWineNot when you are wearing a body armor made up of titanium alloy made to protect Satellites that are constantly bombarded with projectiles the size of pebbles that can rip through spaceships. Cars are made up of cheap steel which do not compare.This isn't a counter. I said A would do more damage than B, and you counter with C could take either. What Iron Monger did to Iron Man was way less damaging than what Hulk did to Abomination. A single car being thrown is less dangerous than getting pounded with two halves of a car by someone strong enough to weild them like nothing. Quote:Im not saying that almost being knocked down alone causes the Hulk to lose the fight, just that Tony has more than enough ways to win. He could should shoot Hulk in the eyes with his shoulder rifles and finish however he wants. He could spam his kinetic blasts (>>>grenade launchers)at Hulk until he fall and finish however he wants. He could spam his long ranch weapons at Hulk. He could possibly even get in a pure fist fight but he'd mostly like run out of energy before the hulk is down for good, mainly because Hulk is bigger.I do not see his kinetic blasts as better than a grenade launcher. It just knocked people back, grenades do that plus have shrapnel ripping you apart. Even if he did get Hulk to fall I don't think he could do anything to him. None of his attacks impressed me. He certainly couldn't hurt Hulk with his punches. Abomination was throwing cars around left and right like they were toys and he wasn't able to beat Hulk with punches. Those hits between the two were way more powerful than grenades or kinetic blasts. Look at how far and fast Hulk kicked Emil back then look at what happened to Tony's victims. Quote:Mind you that in the at the end of the Ironman movie, Tony used his first Arc Reactor. The same reactor he made in the cave which was much weaker than the upgraded one. Despite that, it still created a blast that was strong enough to blast Iron Mongler into a building.While that is impressive, Abomination kicked Hulk much further than Iron Man sent Iron Monger and Hulk was fine. Quote:I find it incredibly hard to believe those sonic beam would equal Tony's full powered reactor blast from his new Arc Reactor mainly because he designed it himself, for himself, and quit making weapons for others.I don't see your point. The sonic beam couldn't be more powerful than Iron Man's power supply's discharge because he didn't make it? Tony Stark didn't invent nukes but I am pretty sure that is more powerful than his arc blast. They were huge and mounted on the back of Hummers. Iron Man's is half the size of my fist. It isn't hard to think it would be more powerful. Seeing what it did to Hulk I think they were. Even if they weren't, we know the arc blast is less than Abom's kick which didn't take Hulk out from physics. Iron Man vs Iron Monger were in the "cars are heavy" range, while Hulk and Abom thought they were toys. That shows they are a tier above strengthwise.

Quote:Since the beginning of T

2008-06-17T21:21:23.709+02:00

Quote:Since the beginning of Tony's fight, (even before he flew to the location of) Tony was operating at 48% power. At 19% power, he held up a mini van after it was thrown by the Iron Mongler. The same guy that dug through concert and asphalt from his underground facility; the same guy that one armed cars and threw them against Tony. Iron Mongler stomped Tony several times, threw him threw a bus and shot a missile at him point blank. Tony got blow up in the air just to recover hovering, all while only going down to 14%.The stuff Abomination and Hulk did to each other makes that look like nothing. Having a car thrown at you in one thing, having a guy repeatedly pummel you in the face with a car while you are pinned on the ground until the car is in 1000 pieces is another. Hulk winces and stuff because he doesn't want them in his eyes and it is natural. Nothing actually did any damage to him besides one scrape out of that whole ordeal. Then again Abomination the only cut was when he got stabbed with the bone elbow (which he ripped out of Abom's arm, very impressive). It isn't fair to say a grenade launcher almost knocking Hulk down means he is weaker than someone who did get knocked down by a tank blast. Plus we don't really know the specifications of those dual sonic beams. They might be up there with his chest arc reactor laser.

Vader can Telekentically hold

2009-06-10T21:41:07.568+02:00

Vader can Telekentically hold down Luffy, then either simply slice his head off or choke him. Being a Rubberman means little because Luffy still has to be able to breathe. And lightsaber isn't going to be stopped by Luffy's durability. Pre-Cog, Telekensis, Force Crush, Telepathy (restricted), ect. As long as Vader can hold down Luffy and choke him or slice him apart with the Force, Vader can take this. If Luffy can move faster then Vader's speed of thought, then he can easily take this. Also in LOE, Anakin shot down twelve droid starfighters despite their faster then light processing chips and electronic reflexes in the span of a "heart beat". Other then that, Vader has very impressive speed and reaction time feats. A 200 meter armorery was going to be destroyed just from his indirect rage because he got angry, due to Obi-Wan's Clairvoyance in the Force. And in the Clone Wars Vader/Anakin has showcased the ability to internally crush people with the Force. If he directly targets Luffy's organs like his heart, lungs or brain, Luffy is fucked pretty bad.

Quote:Originally Posted by Azu

2009-06-10T21:40:38.999+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Azure Flame KiteWhat's Force Choke going to do to Luffy? I'd say crushing his wind pipe couldn't happen.It could. A rubber wind pipe can still be crushed, as seen in the fight with Lucci in Water 7. All Vader has to do is hold Luffy's hands, feet, and head in place with the force while crushing his wind pipe. Easy as pie.

What's Force Choke going to do

2009-06-10T21:40:10.430+02:00

What's Force Choke going to do to Luffy? I'd say crushing his wind pipe couldn't happen.

Quote:Originally Posted by Kuy

2009-06-10T21:39:13.292+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by KuyaCurrent Luffy. No Jedi/Sith Mind Tricks.What kind of Darth Vader? Pre-cyberstuff, or post-cyberstuff? Either way, Luffy loses. Force crush the wind pipe and it's over, since Luffy won't be able to receive air. Heck, give the guy a heart attack by crushing the arteries leading up to the heart. Luffy might be fast, but he's not fast enough to avoid force choke.

Current Luffy. No Jedi/Sith Mi

2009-06-10T21:38:46.944+02:00

Current Luffy. No Jedi/Sith Mind Tricks.

Pikachu and his SSBB feats sho

2009-06-10T11:12:32.035+02:00

Pikachu and his SSBB feats shou8ld be enough for this, since he managed to bring down that lizard Samus had been fighting with her insane tech for so long. Not to mention how the thing actually managed to react to Samus moving around, even in her suit, which moves at mach speed with ease...

Quote:Originally Posted by Ax_

2009-06-10T11:11:32.357+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Ax_So, since nothing else has been stated...I'm going to go with SSBB feats, since the OP said all games feats. That means the thing can tank punches and attacks moving at 50k mph. And then we include the thing it did to Ridley in the Subspace Emissary... I'd say it could do pretty well here.All games are included, so yeah SSBB feats as well. Also, that's why I used Pikachu not Raichu, because Pikachu has had a much broader range of appearances and media than Raichu (though if Pikachu is too overwhelmed then like in I stated in the OP he gets all attacks that would be learnable by him in any of his evolutionary stages).

So, since nothing else has bee

2009-06-10T11:11:24.739+02:00

So, since nothing else has been stated...I'm going to go with SSBB feats, since the OP said all games feats. That means the thing can tank punches and attacks moving at 50k mph. And then we include the thing it did to Ridley in the Subspace Emissary... I'd say it could do pretty well here.

Quote:Originally Posted by mys

2009-06-10T11:11:17.121+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by mystictrunksTeam Rocket survives shocks constantly, so do several water pokemon. Choji, Shikamaru, Neji, Lee, Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi all have a high chance to beat Pikachu.Team Rockett gets blasted to hell every episode. Water Pokemon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Team Rockett >> Ash> Superhuman :shrooms

Quote:Originally Posted by DaS

2008-07-19T02:50:42.763+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by DaSlimShadyNo, it doesn't. When did Mewtwo demonstrate he could read minds? And when did he demonstrate to control to snap a neck? He can make things levitate, not completely control their movement. Genjutsu could easily be Mewtwo's defeat.When he was stated to be a psichic pokemon Mewtwo uses De-Evolution beam. Itachi is turned into Rosie O'Donnel and then into a fecal bacteria

Mewtwo is easily strong enough

2008-06-13T22:57:04.980+02:00

Mewtwo is easily strong enough mentally to break out of a genjutsu. When you can control people with your mind, snapping necks isn't too hard. He just never really had cause to do it in the movie (If you're talking about the movie Mewtwo. Game Mewtwo is even more powerful.). He can also easily wipe clean Itachi's mind, or make him explode (He did it to the machinery in the lab) or levitate him into space. There's many options for Mewtwo.

Quote:Originally Posted by DaS

2008-06-13T22:56:56.980+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by DaSlimShadyNo, it doesn't. When did Mewtwo demonstrate he could read minds? And when did he demonstrate to control to snap a neck? He can make things levitate, not completely control their movement. Genjutsu could easily be Mewtwo's defeat.When he was reading Ash's mind in the movie. What kind of shit Physic Pokemon would he be if he couldn't read minds?

No, it doesn't. When did Mewtw

2008-06-13T22:56:48.980+02:00

No, it doesn't. When did Mewtwo demonstrate he could read minds? And when did he demonstrate to control to snap a neck? He can make things levitate, not completely control their movement. Genjutsu could easily be Mewtwo's defeat.

Quote:Originally Posted by Ult

2008-06-10T22:03:32.443+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by UltimateDeadpoolItachi didn't want to risk getting himself killed before he could complete his goal with Sasuke. Camp Itachi doesn't see the obvious. Kisame said "I don't know about you, but Jiraiya's in a different league than me." Itachi replied "If I fought him, he and I'd both be injured. I might be able to kill him, but I'd die too. Having help wouldn't change that." Then as they were leaving, Kisame said. "Itachi, we could have..." in which Itachi interrupted "We don't need the Kyuubi yet, and I've used the Mangekyou too many times. I need to rest." If snake > toad > slug is true, then toad > weasel > snake is too. Weasels are a snake's natural predator, but they don't eat toads because they're poisonous. Snakes however have a natural tolerance against toad poison. See, a weasel could bite a toad and it would feel the effects of the poison, in which case they'd both be debilitated. If the weasel did eat the toad, they'd both die. This reflects what Itachi said. nice try... do you really believe that itachi with more men couldnt beat jiriayaa without dying... do you really believe that?..... lets see more men would include Pein, Konan, Deidara, Sasori, Kakuzu, Hidan, Zestu, and Kisame..... do you really think that Jiriaya is =/> than Akatsuke(sp)

Quote:Originally Posted by Yag

2008-06-10T22:03:22.443+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Yagami1211It's obvious why Itachi said that Jiraiya was stronger after the revelation we heard. He didn't want to harm J-man.Quote:Originally Posted by SM00TH38duh... but camp jiriaya doesnt see the obviousItachi didn't want to risk getting himself killed before he could complete his goal with Sasuke. Camp Itachi doesn't see the obvious. Quote:Originally Posted by sworderYeah, it's more like he thought killing Jiraiya was pointless. He had to make up a lie to tell Kisame as to why he didn't want to fight, and he told him Jiraiya was stronger than them... and Kisame still didn't believe him.Kisame said "I don't know about you, but Jiraiya's in a different league than me." Itachi replied "If I fought him, he and I'd both be injured. I might be able to kill him, but I'd die too. Having help wouldn't change that." Then as they were leaving, Kisame said. "Itachi, we could have..." in which Itachi interrupted "We don't need the Kyuubi yet, and I've used the Mangekyou too many times. I need to rest." If snake > toad > slug is true, then toad > weasel > snake is too. Weasels are a snake's natural predator, but they don't eat toads because they're poisonous. Snakes however have a natural tolerance against toad poison. See, a weasel could bite a toad and it would feel the effects of the poison, in which case they'd both be debilitated. If the weasel did eat the toad, they'd both die. This reflects what Itachi said.

Quote:Originally Posted by Yag

2008-06-10T22:02:59.109+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Yagami1211It's obvious why Itachi said that Jiraiya was stronger after the revelation we heard. He didn't want to harm J-man. duh... but camp jiriaya doesnt see the obvious

Quote:Originally Posted by Nik

2008-06-10T22:02:09.109+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by NikushimiBecause I'm the Goddamn Batman. Jiraiya wouldn't be able to even force Itachi to use Susano'o. At best, he might force him to use one of the other Mangekyou techniques, but it ends there. Only with Sasuke-level plot shielding could Jiraiya ever hope to reach Susano'o. Beating it is another matter entirely.cyphon answer my question. will this guy ever get off the uchiha cock?

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-06-10T22:01:49.109+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianOro was willing to kill Jiraiya whereas Jiraiya wasn't willing to kill Oro, and it would take more skill to bring back Oro then to kill him.i'll agree with u. Quote:Sasuke manage to escape Amaterasu and Jiraiya is way stronger then the Sasuke that did that.i dont think jman's speed is something like sasuke's speed.sasuke manage to escape because he had oro's special kawaimi no jutsu which is very hard to detect. Quote:Think again,u should.Quote: the OP hasn't mentioned an area or starting distance so this will go on forever.ur thread is already in the landfill.anyway,no offence.

i just want to say that if mad

2008-06-10T22:01:29.109+02:00

i just want to say that if madara ( who si no in his prime ) is still stronger than itachi ( even with susanno) that mean susanno is not that strong... and can be stopped

Quote:Originally Posted by Nik

2008-06-10T22:00:57.443+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by NikushimiBecause I'm the Goddamn Batman. Jiraiya wouldn't be able to even force Itachi to use Susano'o. At best, he might force him to use one of the other Mangekyou techniques, but it ends there. Only with Sasuke-level plot shielding could Jiraiya ever hope to reach Susano'o. Beating it is another matter entirely.Yes because Susanoo is so fucking fast and deadly and it doesnt kill Itachi at all and last like 5 min nono. Jman pwnz this so hard. Doesnt matter if Itachi's sick or not.

Quote:Originally Posted by His

2008-06-10T22:00:49.943+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Hisagilol Jiraiyah's frog song would destroy Itachi before Itachi even realizes what's going on! His other techniques like swamp of the underworld also take care of Itachi nicely! A jutsu that takes over a chapter to work And the most overrated jutsu by Jiraiyatards, the swamp... thinking it can trap S-rank criminals like nothing when it barely trapped a blind guy and a fodder snake

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2009-09-28T13:47:50.712+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianA>B>C is usually correct. So are you saying if Kakashi>Inari>bug then Kakashi>bug may not be true?Then Itachi>Orochimaru>Jiraiya. So stfu. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianI'd believe you if Madara never had the EMS.EMS just means he took his brother's eyes. It has nothing to do with power or skill, it's something ANY Uchiha can get. It's like giving an evolution stone to your Pokemanz and making it evolve. Sure, it gets stronger, but it's still Level 5 and weak as motherfucking hell. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianSo Amaterasu causes him no pain and he can just open and close his eye to cast Amaterasu whenever he wants.Nobody's saying that. But when he uses it, it gets the job done. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianNot rape defeat, current Pein and Madara would beat Itachi like he is pre skip Naruto.Itachi would defeat Pein with extreme difficulty and Madara would defeat Itachi with extreme difficulty, but stomp Pein. Itachi, being a Mangekyou Sharingan user and having knowledge of Madara, is the only one who could possibly fight him effectively. Everyone else would just...faze through, and be like "WTF?". Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianReally then why did Itachi imply that the EMS is required to defeat MadaraGee, I dunno... Because it is? Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianHe wasn't, now he above his level.So you're saying Sasuke, who has activated Mangekyou Sharingan and has no techniques for it, is stronger than Juin Sasuke? Bullshit. Sasuke is much weaker now than he was before. Kishimoto did it so Naruto would stand a chance. If anything, Sasuke may actually be Jiraiya's equal now, but he used to be stronger than him by far. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianDeidara was below Jiraiya's level who is equal to Itachi, and he was below Sasuke's level.Deidara was at least equal to Sasuke. Sasuke only had an elemental advantage. Jiraiya is nowhere near Itachi's level, and is still below Sasuke's.

Quote:Originally Posted by Tru

2009-08-08T05:16:18.647+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by TruepotentialBase Sharingan beat Tsukiyomi, 1/3 of Mangekyou Sharingan.And Itachi was holding back. But the point is, under the right circumstances with the right gap, it IS possible. I just think that gap exists between Itachi and Young Madara, since Madara was an idiot and lost to Shodai, who is weaker than old Sarutobi. Quote:Originally Posted by TruepotentialDeidara would've beat Sasuke, if it wasn't for the elemental advantage. Deidara on Jiraiya's level? I don't think so.Sasuke was leaps and bounds stronger than Orochimaru after he absorbed him, then he fought Deidara. And, as you said, Sasuke only won because of an elemental advantage. So Deidara is easily on Jiraiya's level, and would probably beat him with the C4 Karura. Of course, the C4 Karura is almost impossible to deal with for ANYONE who doesn't have Sharingan or Byakugan. And if worse comes to worse...well, with Deidara, I think you already know.

Quote:Originally Posted by Ten

2009-06-17T20:44:46.582+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Tenjinso your Using the A>B>C logic ... in that case Itachi murderstomps Jiraya like he did to Oro .A>B>C is usually correct. So are you saying if Kakashi>Inari>bug then Kakashi>bug may not be true? Quote:i think the hatred thing was symbolic , remember what Zetsu afterwards , its about Sharingan mastery , not the will of hate , also even if it was about Hatred , he still needs Sharingan , and don't bother to tell me Jirayas Will >Sasuke's hatred . because it ain't.He said the Sharingan is just a tool. Quote:Manga proof please ... EMS, your turn. Quote:he wasn't o Jiraya's level thats true , but Jiraya isn't that much Higher than he is . Have no not seen me say they are equals many times? Quote:he used it to kill Naruto instead of chop his hand ... it took plot no jutsu to bring Back Naruto . It took the plot-no-jutsu to make Kabuto take the Rasengan. Quote:its still a theorey ... and not a proven one at that . Pein mastered the Yin-Yang chakra type correct? Quote:i think it will be the cause of his defeat , but still that was his only accomplishment in 50 years ... after so many failures .Who cares, this thing will save the world thus his failures are short compared to this. Quote:Originally Posted by TruepotentialI'll tell you what Plot no jutsu is. The fact that Tsunade fucking blitzed and destroyed Naruto with a finger, then the same Tsunade had her speed equaled or overwhelmed by Kabuto. Then Kabuto was slow enough to be caught in Naruto's hand.I see... Quote:Originally Posted by NikushimiSenju clan was stated to be Uchiha's equal. Itachi is much stronger than Young Madara, though, so he's much stronger than Senju. Hence his statement that only another Sharingan user could defeat him.I'd believe you if Madara never had the EMS. Quote:Because Itachi let him, according to Tobi. Tobi didn't even see the fight, but offhand he knew without a doubt that if Itachi had tried to, there would be no way Sasuke could've escaped it.So Amaterasu causes him no pain and he can just open and close his eye to cast Amaterasu whenever he wants. Quote:LMAO, current Madara would rapestomp all over Pein.Not rape defeat, current Pein and Madara would beat Itachi like he is pre skip Naruto. Quote:Lolno, all Young Madara had was EMS + Kyuubi. As we've seen, base Sharingan can beat Mangekyou, so regular Mangekyou could probably beat EMS if the gap was big enough. In this case, it is. Itachi would hack the Kyuubi, use it against Young Madara, and rape him stupid. Really then why did Itachi imply that the EMS is required to defeat Madara Quote:Sasuke was above Jiraiya's level and probably still is.He wasn't, now he above his level. Quote: He tangled with Deidara and was pretty even with him, and Deidara was like...Jiraiya-level, but had a specific counter to the Sharingan that Jiraiya does not.Deidara was below Jiraiya's level who is equal to Itachi, and he was below Sasuke's level.

Quote:Originally Posted by Tru

2009-04-27T12:13:14.517+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by TruepotentialBase Sharingan beat Tsukiyomi, 1/3 of Mangekyou Sharingan. Only because Itachi allowed him . Quote:Originally Posted by Truepotential Deidara on Jiraiya's level? I don't think so.Hahaha Deidara > Jiraya , C4 Is enough to get rid of Pa Ma , Jiraya and wipe him out of excistense.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2009-01-28T14:32:42.433+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianGuess who lost to a non Sharingan user, an Uchiha who is way stronger then ItachiSenju clan was stated to be Uchiha's equal. Itachi is much stronger than Young Madara, though, so he's much stronger than Senju. Hence his statement that only another Sharingan user could defeat him. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianSasuke has time to escape.Because Itachi let him, according to Tobi. Tobi didn't even see the fight, but offhand he knew without a doubt that if Itachi had tried to, there would be no way Sasuke could've escaped it. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianHe isn't on Pein's level if he surpassed Madara then you'd be on to something.LMAO, current Madara would rapestomp all over Pein. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianMadara present>Madara past, but Madara past was also stronger then Itachi.Lolno, all Young Madara had was EMS + Kyuubi. As we've seen, base Sharingan can beat Mangekyou, so regular Mangekyou could probably beat EMS if the gap was big enough. In this case, it is. Itachi would hack the Kyuubi, use it against Young Madara, and rape him stupid. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianBut that Sasuke wasn't at Jiraiya's level.Sasuke was above Jiraiya's level and probably still is. He tangled with Deidara and was pretty even with him, and Deidara was like...Jiraiya-level, but had a specific counter to the Sharingan that Jiraiya does not.

Quote:he used it to kill Narut

2009-01-09T20:28:12.429+01:00

Quote:he used it to kill Naruto instead of chop his hand ... it took plot no jutsu to bring Back Kabuto . I'll tell you what Plot no jutsu is. The fact that Tsunade fucking blitzed and destroyed Naruto with a finger, then the same Tsunade had her speed equaled or overwhelmed by Kabuto. Then Kabuto was slow enough to be caught in Naruto's hand.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-12-22T02:23:42.425+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianGuess who lost to a non Sharingan user, an Uchiha who is way stronger then Itachiso your Using the A>B>C logic ... in that case Itachi murderstomps Jiraya like he did to Oro . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianAnd his will to hate wasn't strong enough.i think the hatred thing was symbolic , remember what Zetsu afterwards , its about Sharingan mastery , not the will of hate , also even if it was about Hatred , he still needs Sharingan , and don't bother to tell me Jirayas Will >Sasuke's hatred . because it ain't. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianMadara present>Madara past, but Madara past was also stronger then Itachi.Manga proof please ... Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianBut that Sasuke wasn't at Jiraiya's level.he wasn't o Jiraya's level thats true , but Jiraya isn't that much Higher than he is . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianHis other hand was free.he used it to kill Naruto instead of chop his hand ... it took plot no jutsu to bring Back Naruto . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianTheory which had manga evidence, until someone proves Pein is a warlock I'll stick to it. And if you think that message won't also be a cause of Pein's defeat I lol at you.its still a theorey ... and not a proven one at that . i think it will be the cause of his defeat , but still that was his only accomplishment in 50 years ... after so many failures .

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-12-03T08:19:12.421+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianSasuke's hate wasn't strong enough back then, 2 years later it was.so are you saying his sharingan has nothing to do with that... better yet, are you saying will of hate > sharingan.... " /> Quote:It had manga facts, now unless you want to prove Pein is a warlock then just face it.lol...wow i suppose to face a fanfic as the truth...." /> Quote:Exactly, Hashirama could fight at Madara's level which Itachi can't.i think you got this wrong.. i said Itachi has done more at his ( Itachi) than all the above Quote:Fine the MS isn't a whole new jutsu is just a simple upgrade from the base Sharingan. thank you... " /> Quote:Lets see him being stupid enough to stand there waiting to burn.he can run, but remember its suppose to be unavoiddable Quote:Its better, unlike them he almost Pein the Akatsuki's leader. Nope, I guess you believe Itachi surpassed Madara? Prove it if you claim he is on his level. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/11/ read this carefully, itachi feels that if he has the EMS ( which only gives 1 new unknown justu, and no blindness) he can surpass madara.. meaning he is close to his level Quote:Kakuzu could've taken him if there was no Yamato and Kabuto, and yes Kabuto was an idiot since he didn't use blades to chop Naruto's hand, instead he took a Rasengan. " /> Quote:But his final message will help defeat Pein who is above his and Itachi's level.yep to bad he couldnt get that to him sooner....the failure

Quote:Originally Posted by Nik

2008-11-14T14:14:42.417+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by NikushimiHey, guess who beat Itachi? Another Sharingan user. Oh, and you know what? Itachi was mortally-ill and holding back, and intended to lose right from the start. Guess who lost to a non Sharingan user, an Uchiha who is way stronger then Itachi Quote:No time. Amaterasu will appear instantly on him and burn him up.Sasuke has time to escape. Quote:Manga canon says Itachi>>>>>Sannin, just like Pein. Itachi is on Pein's level, deal with it. He isn't on Pein's level if he surpassed Madara then you'd be on to something. Quote:Originally Posted by TenjinSasuke's Sharingan wasn't fully developed .And his will to hate wasn't strong enough. Quote:proof that Madara back in the day > Madara nowdays . Madara present>Madara past, but Madara past was also stronger then Itachi. Quote:Amaterasu = Unavodiable he can run as much as he want , also stop ignoring Madara's comment about Itachi being able to kill Sasuke anytime he wanted .But that Sasuke wasn't at Jiraiya's level. Quote:and his hand that was stuck to Naruto's hand? His other hand was free. Quote:in your opinion that is based on a bunch of Fanfics.Theory which had manga evidence, until someone proves Pein is a warlock I'll stick to it. And if you think that message won't also be a cause of Pein's defeat I lol at you.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-10-26T20:10:12.413+01:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianSasuke's hate wasn't strong enough back then, 2 years later it was.Sasuke's Sharingan wasn't fully developed . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianExactly, Hashirama could fight at Madara's level which Itachi can't.proof that Madara back in the day > Madara nowdays . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianLets see him being stupid enough to stand there waiting to burn.Amaterasu = Unavodiable he can run as much as he want , also stop ignoring Madara's comment about Itachi being able to kill Sasuke anytime he wanted . Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianKakuzu could've taken him if there was no Yamato and Kabuto, and yes Kabuto was an idiot since he didn't use blades to chop Naruto's hand, instead he took a Rasengan.and his hand that was stuck to Naruto's hand? Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianBut his final message will help defeat Pein who is above his and Itachi's level.in your opinion that is based on a bunch of Fanfics.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-10-08T03:05:42.409+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianI see through your sarcasm, Pein can defeat Itachi face it, Itachi's whole only a Sharingan user can beat him was total bullshit.Hey, guess who beat Itachi? Another Sharingan user. Oh, and you know what? Itachi was mortally-ill and holding back, and intended to lose right from the start. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianFuuinjutsu will be used then, happy?No time. Amaterasu will appear instantly on him and burn him up. Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'BrianOr like the manga canon says they'll kill each other since non of them are anywhere near Pein's level.Manga canon says Itachi>>>>>Sannin, just like Pein. Itachi is on Pein's level, deal with it.

Quote:Originally Posted by SM0

2008-09-19T09:01:12.405+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by SM00TH38Sasuke has a sharingan, which helps in recognizing justu's and breaking them down.... Jiraiya doesnt Sasuke's hate wasn't strong enough back then, 2 years later it was. Quote:make sense to you, but its still a fanfic and its unprovenIt had manga facts, now unless you want to prove Pein is a warlock then just face it. Quote:so itachi ,at a younger age, has achieved more then them all, isnt on there level... " />Exactly, Hashirama could fight at Madara's level which Itachi can't. Quote:where ?By Madara. Quote:its still a from of a sharingan, not a whole new DoujustuFine the MS isn't a whole new jutsu is just a simple upgrade from the base Sharingan. Quote:Jiraiya sealed some after flames, that where stationary, after the coast was clear... lets see him try that in live combatLets see him being stupid enough to stand there waiting to burn. Quote:Neji and Chouji are both still alive... jiraiya isnt... i guess Jiraiya WoF isnt as good as theirsIts better, unlike them he almost Pein the Akatsuki's leader. Quote:" />.... i guess kakashi > Itachi in your book too?Nope, I guess you believe Itachi surpassed Madara? Quote:" /> Prove it if you claim he is on his level. Quote:so how stupid is kakuza, Kabuto, and everyone else naruto has beatinKakuzu could've taken him if there was no Yamato and Kabuto, and yes Kabuto was an idiot since he didn't use blades to chop Naruto's hand, instead he took a Rasengan. Quote:he failed to save his teacher, he failed to save his student, he failed to bring his friend back from the darkness, he failed the village,he failed to win tsunada's heart, but most importantly he failed naruto in 2.5 years of useless training But his final message will help defeat Pein who is above his and Itachi's level.

Quote:Originally Posted by Mun

2008-08-31T14:56:42.401+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by Munboy Dracule O'Brian Sasuke has no MS thus apparently wasn't able to match the MS, w/ his will of hate he broke it.Sasuke has a sharingan, which helps in recognizing justu's and breaking them down.... Jiraiya doesnt Quote:Space-time makes the most sense. It was 6 chakra types, refer to the training arc. make sense to you, but its still a fanfic and its unproven Quote:When people like Hashirama, Minato and Pein were introduced I instantly knew that comment was bullshit.so itachi ,at a younger age, has achieved more then them all, isnt on there level... " /> Quote:This was proven wrong. where ? Quote:Or making the MS the EMS.its still a from of a sharingan, not a whole new Doujustu Quote:I see Amaterasu isn't a Katon and Jiraiya didn't seal Amaterasu with a Fuuinjutsu?Jiraiya sealed some after flames, that where stationary, after the coast was clear... lets see him try that in live combat Quote:Neji and Chouji's will are not as strong as Jiraiya's will.Neji and Chouji are both still alive... jiraiya isnt... i guess Jiraiya WoF isnt as good as theirs Quote:Read the manga, unless Pein is somehow a wizard then no, he mastered 6 chakra types and space-time falls under the Yin-Yang chakra type and as we saw from Kakashi space-time jutus can absorb anything including Susano'o." />.... i guess kakashi > Itachi in your book too? Quote:Now face it this whole Itachi is on Pein's level is bullshit, unless he somehow surpassed Madara then no he isn't on Pein's level." /> Quote:It isn't intelligent, if it was it wouldn't have lost to a Genin. so how stupid is kakuza, Kabuto, and everyone else naruto has beatin Quote:So he failed in leaving the key to help Naruto get strong and he failed to will himself back to life and he failed to write all the necessary details on Pa's back he failed to save his teacher, he failed to save his student, he failed to bring his friend back from the darkness, he failed the village,he failed to win tsunada's heart, but most importantly he failed naruto in 2.5 years of useless training

Quote:Originally Posted by Ten

2008-08-12T20:52:12.397+02:00

Quote:Originally Posted by TenjinItachi inflitrated Akatsuki for Konoha meaning he is a ███ , he isn't some Bad @ss who takes orders from Pein because he is afraid of his Power .He didn't bother taking him out and even knew quite a bit of his plan so... Quote:that was a Suiton .. i thought it was Ma's Tongue ??? ... It came from Pa's mouth. Ma brought it down and Pa sliced it in half. Quote:http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/142/15/ he said a Sharingan can have some resistance to it , and you clearly didn't read my Madara comment thing . Kakashi lacked a strong will and ended up in a coma. Quote:you mean the same common Sense that we use to tell you about Itachi's reason of running away from Jiraya? ...I know he could've taken Jiraiya, I'm trying to prove Itachi isn't on Pein's level but rather on the same level as Jiraiya. Quote:lol Quote:by who ? don't tell me Madara crap , im talking about Itachi . Notice how Madara far exceeded Itachi on terms of Sharingan power and despite that he lost to a non Uchiha. Quote:nowhere in the manga has been shown that seals stopped live Jutsu's . and what i mean by live i mean ones that were just immediatly casted .Not where does it show anyone stupid enough(save Sakura and Ino) who will just stand there. Quote:its still a Theory ... , sorry what ??? Kakkashis MS can abosrb Susanoo . proof please . Space-time absorbs anything, unless someone else can come up with an explanation about that jutsu I still will believe it is a space-time Ninjutsu. Quote:that's what you think .And Kishi when he made Pein one of the final villains and Itachi Sasuke's ultimate benchmark. Quote:Kabuto lost to that Genin ... is Kabuto an idiot as well Back then yeah.