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I’ll be back at a later date t

2008-02-11T12:23:45.915+01:00

I’ll be back at a later date to read some of the other interesting posts you have.

If the blog about watch, why n

2008-01-19T07:33:20.206+01:00

If the blog about watch, why not they put anchor text as “Watch”? I just thought about it all the time, since I read this post, make me feel that dofollow and nofollow is still the same, the different is you let those anchor text with their name to drop a comment and linkback to him. If have 100 people name robin which have their own blog and 100 people of them drop comment on your blog, will you approve it?This just my opinion, I would appreciate if you give me some feedback, thank you for your time for reading this comment.Louiss

I find that, more and more, th

2007-11-30T03:07:20.641+01:00

I find that, more and more, the spammy and even the semi-spammy comments stand out like sore thumbs when it comes to moderation time. And, as many people here say, just because someone submits a comment, whether it is truly brilliant or abominable sapm, you don’t have to accept it.So, my own rule of thumb is that, if I think that a real person has made an effort to sit, think and then write, I’ll use it. Otherwise, I won’t, and that pretty much has dealt with the spammers so far,Steve

I am so glad you to find this

2007-11-16T15:19:33.714+01:00

I am so glad you to find this post. I have noticed an increasing number of such comments. Unfortunate thing that many of these comments are relevant. But I really enjoy those who even go as far as asking you a question. This is how I generally answer:“Hi Las Vegas Real Estate,What a good question……..”Being greedy will only hurt them in the long time.

Glad I found your blog, hat ti

2007-10-16T04:48:02.881+02:00

Glad I found your blog, hat tip to Mr Beard

You make some very good points

2007-10-07T04:56:10.929+02:00

You make some very good points here, but I have to disagree with #5.If somebody made a comment on all 4 of my blogs, I would be more than happy that they did. I don’t think Akismet works that way.

Why just not save some time an

2007-09-28T05:04:16.976+02:00

Why just not save some time and energy making it “nofollow”? Does it provide you with something that I can’t see right now? :/

Akismet figures out which are

2007-09-28T05:04:15.977+02:00

Akismet figures out which are spam using a variety of methods. These include seeing that a huge number of comments are arriving from a particular IP address, or certain URLs. But the also rely on bloggers reporting spam.So, if you leave a comment and Akismet thinks it’s not spam, but I do, I can report it. If I’m the only one who thinks so, Akismet won’t call you spam. But if a lot of bloggers report you, Akismet will call you spam.After that, your comment will sit in all future bloggers spam folders. They may not see it. It eventually gets autodeleted. For this reason, doing things some bloggers consider spammy can hurt you– even if you think what you do is fine.

Anyway, whenever I leave a com

2007-09-28T05:04:09.485+02:00

Anyway, whenever I leave a comment I always try to contribute something to the discussion. I can’t say my comment will be as long or as detailed as the ones above, but they might be on occasion. Every once in a while if I have recently written an article on my blog related to the subject I am commenting on I will include a link to my article. I only do this on blogs I have visited and commented at before, and where I have seen precedent.Again thanks for the information I will pay more attention to my comments and the comments on my blog as well.later all and have a profitable productive blogging dayYours truly C “the C has to stand for Chow” man

One very big reason I switched

2007-09-28T05:04:08.472+02:00

One very big reason I switched from Akismet to Spam Karma (I notice you use it too) is that I simply don’t want uptight Jane over at crochet-blog-monthly deciding who can post comments at my blogs. I want their behavior to make the determination, and thus far it’s worked beautifully. Though I will admit I have a couple of clever guys making concerted efforts to learn how to game the filters, and one even managed to squeak one through, so I was forced to implement my first actual blacklist entry.As for SEOing the name, this is new for me. My name is Dane Morgan, and since it’s your blog you could easily change my name, and if you told me that you just really didn’t want my comments without using my name, I’d honor that request in a heart beat, it is your blog, and that’s just the right thing to do.But I plan to make pretty much any comment on a post about blogging under my blogging blogs name now, which is Blog Strokes. I’ll still make niche / bum marketing type comments under my real name, until I launch my next blog about niche marketing, then I’ll sign those posts with that blogs name. Everything else, I would sign under my own name.This allows me to 1) separate these three facets of my online life and make them more manageable, and 2) actually leave a better link for both my blog AND the blog i commented on. A link to Blog Strokes with “blog” in the link text is more valuable to this post, than one to Dane Morgan dot com with “Dane Morgan” in the link text. Nothing on your blog is about that.Finally, I know it’s a little heretical, but i don’t consider weather a blog is do follow or not before I post a comment. I post based on weather your post leaves me with a desire to engage you in conversation. But as Andy will tell you, I’m pretty sloppy as links and juice go.Oh, yeah, Nice Blog, lol. No, really, nice blog, I was just a little afraid to say so.

I’d mark that Canadian flower

2007-09-28T05:04:07.459+02:00

I’d mark that Canadian flower company as spam. No doubt. I’m actually getting more aggressive as I see more spam. (And I may write an interface that lets us “drill down” and see the previous 10 comments by someone who “matched” a name/ email address or url. That way, if we slip up, we can easily fix it!)

Although thanks for posting th

2007-09-28T05:03:45.647+02:00

Although thanks for posting this, was informative, especially for blogging newbie like me.

That number is set by the blog

2008-07-20T09:24:29.690+02:00

That number is set by the blog admin, so you can allow as many URLs as you feel is reasonable. It also destroys posts that are made from the same IP within a certain time frame – if a bot is doing multiple posts all within seconds of each other they get zapped as they arrive. The plugin also allows users to set up a nice sarcastic message which is displayed to wannabe spammers who break the user defined parameters. In addition to manual moderation and a captcha this keeps me pretty free of most spam, including the human posted junk.

I just added the do-follow plu

2007-09-28T05:04:12.666+02:00

I just added the do-follow plug-in to my blog about marketing and to a few of my other niche blogs too.I agree with what Blog Strokes say about SEOing the name in an otherwise decent comment. I wouldn’t really want to call that spamming. Here is my reasoning for that: If more people visit your blog and leave relevant and well thought out comments, that will actually help make your blog more popular, as you get more relevant content with virtually no effort on your part.As I have been marketing online for many years, I know that this is the same argument those who sold blog-spamming software where using. But you have to agree that there is a big difference between those “Hey, nice post – come buy some [insert your favorite potency enhancer here]” posts and those that actually contributes something real but uses an SEOed signature or name.Still, it must of course be up to the blog owner to decide what gives. Perhaps we should have an additional plug-in that clearly states the rules of commenting above the comment box? Then one couldn’t be excused “for not knowing better”, which I actually think is part of the problem right now.

I have to admit that the names

2007-09-28T05:04:11.511+02:00

I have to admit that the names issue is one I had not given much thought to, and have often used my Christian name followed by my online identity as a “handle” (that being effectively the name of my site). I didn’t do it for this comment however I have never done this to game anyone, it was pretty much an unconscious thing, but having read this it’s quite obvious that some bloggers consider it to be “spammy”. To be honest, if someone uses something other than a real name on my own sites, I wouldn’t have a problem with it, unless, like the example already given, it was a blatant keyphrase. Something like Diane’s example above looks fine to me and actually makes it clearer what she’s all about. As I’ve often clicked on comment links to be taken to a place that is of no interest to me personally, don’t you think that sometimes an insightful name has its place and could be beneficial to other readers?As my site’s title is effectively my brand, I’ve often thought it appropriate, but I can see how this could be misconstrued. I’ve been blogging for a fair few years, long before all these issues were around, so, it’s not just “newbies” (hate that word) who might be a little surprised at how these attitudes have developed.Still, this thread got me thinking, and not just that perhaps some folks could lighten up a bit. I hate spam too, but tend to view my commentators innocent until proven guilty.Final thought – I use captchas in conjunction with forced moderation and it keeps me pretty clear of 99% of spam. Anything that makes it to moderation gets personal attention and edits if I see fit.

In last hour I got a comment f

2007-09-28T05:04:06.446+02:00

In last hour I got a comment from someone with a site domain garden.biz, name garden, who told me in their comment that it must be nice to garden since it’s so passive (not for me- I do extreme gardening!) and that they don’t garden at all because they don’t have time and wish they had the time. Yet their like goes to a gardening blog selling gardening stuff. Right. Don’t make a blogger feel that you think they are stupid when you leave a comment. If the person had said they had just started a gardening blog and a site that sells gardening equiptment and been truthful it wouldn’t have got my goat so much. Did they think that I can’t see their name and link? I think that’s part of what makes me so mad at these kind of comments and links. It’s like the comment spammers think we can’t see their urls or that they are just leaving a lame comment to get a back link. We are not dumb. Most of us click on the links that have been left in order to be sure we aren’t linking to a link farm or empty site etc. Love hit me too … yeah, you love my flowers, love the idea of a certain food etc .. that’s nice but why do you link the word love to your dating site? Then there’s Canadian flower company who links to the name flower and if they mention anything in the comment that says flower, Canada, Canadian, rose or any other type of flower it gets a link to their site. They’ve left one line comments with four links to their site! Those are just a few examples that have come in in the last hour or so. If I get 100 comments a day across all our blogs 25 to 40 will be comment spam such as this. I’m not even counting real spam comments that get caught in Akismet or that are blocked by Bad Behavior. I don’t mind so much if people link to their website or business type blog when they fill out the comment form if they are leaving a genuine comment, but yes I prefer that they leave a name and that they not add any extra links within their comment unless that link really pertains to whatever the blog post was about. If a link within a comment has nothing to do with my post or my blog, or their comment has little to nothing to do with the post I’ve been starting to mark the comment as Spam. I get enough comments that I’m not willing to spam up my site with those that abuse my do follow policy. Sure, anyone who knowingly visits a do follow blog is doing it in part for the link. We know that. The main reason I’m a do follow blogger and have been for almost a year is because I want to reward my REGULAR and LOYAL visitors. Not someone coming in with SEO links, and multiple links – Slam, Bam thank you mam. Uh huh. If you are visiting do follow blogs mainly for back links at least have the courtesy of finding a post that you can leave a REAL comment on and don’t fill it with links. If you can’t find something on that blog that you can leave a meaningful comment on – move on. There’s plenty of blogs out there that do and don’t follow. Oh and yes I said I’ve been a do follow blogger for almost a year. Do you know how long I’ve been ticked about SEO type comment spam? Only a month to six weeks because it’s DRAMATICALLY increased in that time. If there was a little bit here and there like there was before it might slip by (might not either), but I’m sure whether it slipped by or not it wouldn’t be as irritating as it’s become. I mean, look at what I said above – 25 to 40% of my “real” comments are comment spam lately. That’s abuse!

http://www.jangro.com/a/2007/08/29/is-dofollow-a-spam-magnet/Drive by cut and paste dofollow commenting perhaps?

I have practiced SEO for some

2008-09-30T13:48:03.008+02:00

I have practiced SEO for some time now and don’t think there is anything wrong with leaving keywords in the name field, as long as you follow basic SEO Ethics.I am very interested to see what happens to this post

I think I’ll stop that now

2008-08-30T15:20:48.729+02:00

I think I’ll stop that now

I also use SpamKarma, and I al

2008-06-29T18:26:20.171+02:00

I also use SpamKarma, and I also always moderate if there are more than 2 links.

You have two comments now. Sho

2008-04-28T21:31:51.613+02:00

You have two comments now. Should you hit three, and return, you’ll see your comment start to follow. (Unless I decide you are spammy and delete. But you aren’t looking spammy. You just look like you are making hasty conclusions.)

Great post. in my experience,

2008-03-28T22:04:37.334+01:00

Great post. in my experience, most commentors fall pretty clearly under spammer or non-spammer, but there are some borderline people out there, too. ~Adam

I will admit that I am eager t

2007-12-27T02:42:54.497+01:00

I will admit that I am eager to get the “link love” from any blog that will allow me to… But it is obvious that if I have NOTHING relevant to add to the post, that it is just hurting me in the long run.Readers will notice that your comments are not valuable and just a waste of time, and probably will not visit your blog then, or in the future.So the tiny SEO boost you get by having ONE more link to you out in the blogosphere is overshadowed by the fact that you are missing out on many potential readers by posting dumb comments.Good points!

The real, true spammers aren’t

2007-11-03T03:31:46.787+01:00

The real, true spammers aren’t going to stop. So, this isn’t written for them. But they are easy to deal with. Anyone who gets a comment with 10 pharmaceutical links etc. send that to Akismet!But the borderline people make everything more difficult! You look at the comment, some bloggers agonize over the “spam” button. Arguments break out when the blogger edits out links. But the fact is, the borderline people are going to get burned. They would be better off just curbing things and getting the link with their name. The alternative is getting banned by Akismet.

1) Following links encourage

2007-09-28T05:04:18.977+02:00

1) Following links encourage comments. I like to read reactions to my blog posts. Reading the reactions makes me think more deeply about the subject; that’s one of the reasons I like to blog about topics I enjoy.2) Following comments by itself does attract new intelligent visitors to a blog. Initially, you get some visits by people who are attracted by the idea they can get a “follow”. If they find my blog attractive, they will return. This is the “upside”.So, giving follows in comments benefits me. (I could claim I do it for the benefit of my visitors, but I have to admit that’s just a beneficial side effect for me!)The downside is that some people have gotten the idea that they can swoop in and leave fly by comments containing almost irrelevant text and highly irrelevant links.There are others who are just sort of “pushing the envelop” and trying to see if they can get away with dropping a few stray irrelevant signature links. It is not my intention to lecture them on ethics. But I do want them to know they are wasting their time and, in come cases, hurting the ability to leave comments at blogs in general. That makes it more difficult for them to boost their SEO by leaving good comments on appropriate blogs that fit their niche. It’s stupid.

@Dane (and everyone actually):

2007-09-28T05:04:14.978+02:00

@Dane (and everyone actually): SEO terms that are informational are fine with me. At this blog, “Blog Strokes”, “WebHosting” and even “SEO Expert” would be fine. At my knitting blog? NO WAY. (Longer explanation in the post!)@Maurice, I think the next blog post “Don’t Spam Suzy Homemaker” may clarify when your blog title might be spam and when it might not.

I can't use Spam Karma but, on

2007-10-03T06:42:59.723+02:00

I can't use Spam Karma but, on my NucleusCMS blog, I use a plugin called PHYFS (I won't repeat what it stands for as this is a family friendly place) and this does a good job of weeding out the type of spam Cindy mentions - anything with more than 3 links is toast :-) That number is set by the blog admin, so you can allow as many URLs as you feel is reasonable. It also destroys posts that are made from the same IP within a certain time frame - if a bot is doing multiple posts all within seconds of each other they get zapped as they arrive. The plugin also allows users to set up a nice sarcastic message which is displayed to wannabe spammers who break the user defined parameters. In addition to manual moderation and a captcha this keeps me pretty free of most spam, including the human posted junk.

@Bape Your "comment" now turn

2007-09-29T04:58:59.591+02:00

@Bape Your "comment" now turns up on my blog too. Hmmm....You are not linking to a blog, you are leaving the same (or very similar) comment at dofollow blogs - at least three that I have stumbled across. No link love from me I'm sorry to say.

Also… notice you didn’t drop a

2007-09-28T05:04:05.647+02:00

Also… notice you didn’t drop any extra links? And your comment does relate to the content of the post.I suspect your comment would be fine with all but the touchiest do-followers. (And the truly touchy just go back to nofollow.)If you come back, you’ll notice “2 comments” when you make your next comment.